First of all, let me say Englishman, very interesting. Gives one food for thought.
I do think some of the Witnesses go way overboard on this subject. I was around for the Smurf thing. Had friends growing up who weren't even allowed to watch Caspar the Ghost. I thought it was ridiculous.
I am of the number who has experienced some paranormal things. Won't go into detail. Suffice it to say, I am a very logical down to earth person, not highly imaginative. And I have a number of strange experience. I like Moridian believe there is a continuation of life. But I don't always believe that is spirits that are in a state of unrest.
Also like Java, I don't believe in Satan and demons anymore. But I do know the things that happened did happen. I haven't come up with a totally logical explanation for the experiences yet. I have come to think that I had the experiences to open my mind. And to not always believe everything the Society teaches as God's truth. It has opened my mind to other possiblities. And they aren't evil one's.
I have a friend who is a white witch, and she is pretty amazing in the things she sees sometimes.
It has been a process of growth for me. And I am still growing and learning and assimulating. I find this subject very interesting. Could there be more intelligent life forms? When we die could all the spirits form a collective conscience? I don't know all the answers, but I think it is worth having an open mind about.
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Is There Something Sinister At The KH?
by Englishman inever since i departed the jw`s, i have pooh - pooh`d the idea of satan, devils, demons, witches and warlocks and laughed at jw paranoia re smurfs and demonised objects etc etc.. just recently, i have had some thoughts as to why jw`s are so obsessive about this subject, suppose that:.
what if the jw religion were itself of satanic origin?
consider the facts:.
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Classical Music
by RedhorseWoman inlast weekend i was enjoying a sarah mclachlan marathon, this weekend it was kenny wayne shepherd and any other blues/rock i could locate.. while indulging in the music that i love, i started thinking about the "gold old jw days", and i remembered listening to the rite of spring by stravinsky, as well as many other classical works when i was younger.. i was transported to a magical, mythical place, and i would frequently put together my own dance routines to accompany the music (since i wasn't allowed to go to dance class).
then came the "warnings" from brooklyn about the pagan themes surrounding many classical works.
the rite of spring was specifically mentioned as one that could turn the good jw into a foaming, demon-inhabited monster.. destroyers of dreams, creators of the mundane--how could i have allowed them to strip my life of all the beautiful things?
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RHW,
Wanted to put this back at the top so you would read it!
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Theocratic sex please.
by philo inthis forum is great for my needs because i specifically need more sex.. i realise this might seem a little forward.
but other forums have strict rules about what is allowed and what is not allowed.
so here in a 'sex' forum surely anything goes!
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Philo,
Thanks for the memories. My book used to worn out too!!! Before I gave it to Good Will.
Now Thinker and I are writing a new book!!
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Hello...Hello...Hello (cont) #3
by Prisca inwell someone had to do it, so it might as well be prim & proper prisca to do the honors in the sex forum...... .
this thread is for all newbies to introduce yourselves.
whatever you feel happy to reveal about yourself.
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Trevor,
Glad you shared. And congrats on finding and staying with your Sweetie. Ain't life grand!!
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looking for old friends
by unanswered ini'm an ex-jw in or and i grew up in southern ca.
i'm looking for any ex-jws from the poway area in north san diego county that maybe i grew up around.
might be be a shot in the dark, but worth a try.
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Hi Unaswered,
I wish I fit your criteria. Hope you find some people!! Do enjoy the board anyway.
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Classical Music
by RedhorseWoman inlast weekend i was enjoying a sarah mclachlan marathon, this weekend it was kenny wayne shepherd and any other blues/rock i could locate.. while indulging in the music that i love, i started thinking about the "gold old jw days", and i remembered listening to the rite of spring by stravinsky, as well as many other classical works when i was younger.. i was transported to a magical, mythical place, and i would frequently put together my own dance routines to accompany the music (since i wasn't allowed to go to dance class).
then came the "warnings" from brooklyn about the pagan themes surrounding many classical works.
the rite of spring was specifically mentioned as one that could turn the good jw into a foaming, demon-inhabited monster.. destroyers of dreams, creators of the mundane--how could i have allowed them to strip my life of all the beautiful things?
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RHW,
Definitely get the cd Hot Flash, the group is called Saffire. An all women band.
You will enjoy some excellent blues!!
Enjoy!
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Hello...Hello...Hello (cont) #3
by Prisca inwell someone had to do it, so it might as well be prim & proper prisca to do the honors in the sex forum...... .
this thread is for all newbies to introduce yourselves.
whatever you feel happy to reveal about yourself.
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Hi Lurker,
Not to be nosy or anything. But I just felt I needed to speak up. I married a JW the first time around. And I (on the other side of the coin) feel the same way about JW men as you do about JW women. So many of them are intimidated by an intelligent women. It seems like as soon as they realize there is intelligence, they run as hard as they can the other way. The men tend to shy away from any intelligent conversation with women. This was very frustrating to me. I was raised in a household with a father and three younger brothers, so I was used to intellectual sparring with men and women alike, as my mother was also in the picture.
When I got married I expected to have that same privilege. But it definitely did not work out that way. Not only was it very lacking in any communication but he was abusive. When I stopped going to the meetings a couple of years ago, I began dating "worldly men". There were some who were intimidated by intelligence, but there were others who were very open to discussion. Last April, I met an outstanding man, who truly is my soul mate in every way. We talk constantly about anything and everything. It has brought such joy and vigor to my life. When we get home from work the evenings just fly by.
I truly hope you can find a woman who will meet your criteria. As Larc said cute and perky might last awhile but in the long run a meeting of the minds is so important. I hope you will consider looking outside the org. There are people out there looking for a real and meaningful relationship. I know because my husband and I were two of them. My husband is Thinker, BTW.
Good luck and may all your dreams come true.
You picked a good friend in Larc. He is a very intelligent and honest person from what I have seen of his posts. He also has some wonderful insight. I guess from age and experience. I hope that my husband and I will have what he and Zazu have after 37 years. I feel confident we will. And I would love for my husband to say what he said about Zazu about me!!
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About me...
by NoLongerAjw inwow, thank you all so much for the welcome.. .
i will tell you a little about myself and my past.. as much as i can for now anyway.. one of the most scarey parts of joining a group is i am afraid to put my name on here.. will that mean i will get a visit from the elders if i do?
i think they put the fear in me :).. .
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Thanks for sharing No Longer. Funny thing Alia, I was just talking to my husband about wondering what my life would be like if I had been able to do the normal things. He brought up a good point. We would have never met. Plus I don't regret learning the things I did. Could have never learned them any other way.
Great to hear people having good lives despite the Borg!!
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Who's to blame?
by ozziepost inwhen viv mouritz , former branch coordinator in australia, addressed the special meeting of sydney and surrounding area congregations at the superdome last weekend, he blamed the young witnesses who were leaving "the truth" for the drop in numbers in australia.. at the service meeting this week in one sydney congregation it was announced by a bethel elder that the elders have been told (as if they didn't know already!
) that 2,000 have left "the truth" in the past two years in australia.
this typical congregation of 120 publishers has lost 19 inactive since 1999.. the march 2001 issue of kingdom ministry (australian edition) gives the number of publishers for december as 58,426, pioneers 3,315 and 19 baptized.. in dec '98 there were 58,706 pubs,and in dec '99 there were 58,000.. with 1,600-1,800 being baptized each year, there is indeeed a 2,000 shortfall.. so, who's to blame?
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thinkers wife
Dear Mr. Ozzie,
I only spelled bastard that way because I was copying what was in Danny's post on terms. My humble apologies. I thought that was the Aussie spelling.
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"out there"....a SCARY place to be!!!
by chipster inwow.....thanks for the warm welcome.... i was just thinking what an interesting journey that it's been since june of last year, when i was dfd for the second time.. some of you wanted to hear my "story"...well, was raised in the truth...elder, pioneer (wanted those special blessings, ya know) cir ass.
parts, the whole thing... left my wife of 27 years, and made the long trek back to reinstatement after 18 months of humiliating abuse by the most dysfunctional group of "spiritual men" (yeah, right) that i have ever seen.
finally came back, crawling on my knees(i was "humbled", don't you know)...well, without getting into details, "sinned" then "confessed" and was promptly dfd again.... the scariest part at first, of being dfd, was "being out there" without jehovah's protection....all alone...no one to support me in my spiritual recovery....subject to demonic attack.....jehovah withholding his protection and blessings.....sheeeesh, that's enogh to scare the hell out of anyone!!!
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Thanks for sharing Chip. It always amazes me to see the similarity in thought pattern that we all seem to share. Always great to hear another person has escaped and found out what a huge wonderful world there is out there. And that not only is there life after the Borg, it is a good life!!!!
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